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Patio smoker files lawsuit against neighbour suing her -BC
August 11, 2007
Chad Skelton, Vancouver Sun
NORTH VANCOUVER – A condominium owner sued by her neighbour for smoking on her patio has filed a lawsuit of her own — alleging she is the victim of a “campaign of harassment” by her complaining neighbour.
In May, Maureen Nicholson filed a lawsuit in B.C. Supreme Court alleging that Claire Bellwood smokes outside her suite up to 10 times a day, causing the “toxic, noxious, carcinogenic and pungent smoke” to waft into Nicholson’s apartment.
The lawsuit alleged the smoke was caused by “tobacco and/or marijuana cigarettes” and the burning of sage.
However, in a statement of defence recently filed with the court, Bellwood claimed that while she does regularly smoke cigarettes on her patio, she does not smoke marijuana and that the burning of sage is “part of a ceremony required by her spiritual beliefs”.
She also argues that neither Nicholson or the condominium’s strata council has ever asked her to stop smoking outside.
Attached to her statement of defence, Bellwood also filed a counterclaim against Nicholson, accusing her of making “repeated unjustified complaints” about her to the RCMP.
In a statement of defence to Bellwood’s counterclaim, filed with the court in June, Nicholson argues her calls to the police were justified, including calls about “repeated domestic disputes of a volatile and upsetting nature involving [Bellwood] and her spouse, audible two floors above.”
No court date has yet been set to hear the case.
ROBYN YOUNG
Rental board snuffs bid to ban smoking -QC
RYAN BERGEN, The Gazette
Neal Hall, Vancouver Sun
Following are excerpts from a Landlord and Tenant Board decision issued Wednesday in the case of Sharna Sugarman, a Kingston resident battling eviction by her landlords. While the landlords wished to occupy the unit Sugarman was in, she herself was arguing to the board that second-hand smoke from the apartment below her was damaging her daughter’s health.
Landlords’Application:
1. The Landlords in good faith require possession of the rental unit, for the purpose of residential occupation.
4. I have considered all of the disclosed circumstances in accordance with subsection 83(2) of the Act, and find that it would not be unfair to postpone the eviction until June 30, 2007 pursuant to subsection 83(1)(b) of the Act. This will allow the Tenant’s daughter to finish this school year and give the Tenant ample time to find alternate living accommodation.
Tenant’s Application:
1. It is the responsibility of the applicant to prove her case. I find the Tenant has failed to meet that onus.
It is ordered that:
Landlords’Application:
1. The tenancy between the Landlord and the Tenant is terminated. The Tenant must move out of the rental unit on or before June 30, 2007.
Landlord and Tenant Board:
7. Upon receipt of this order, the Court Enforcement Office (Sheriff) is directed to give vacant possession of the unit to the landlord on or after July 1, 2007.
Tenant’s Application:
1. The Tenant’s application is dismissed.
May 16, 2007
Brian McKee, Member Landlord and Tenant Board Eastern Region
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Smoking challenge denied; Tenant faces eviction after tribunal rejects health-and-safety argument -ON
Ian Elliot
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Re: Don’t extend smoking bans to apartments
Exactly how can the Ontario Liberals create a healthier society when they betray the smoker’s sense of trust, demoralize their self-confidence, disrupt their employer-employee relationships and undermind their efficacy by alienating them from their own human nature?
This irrational mind/body dichotomy will subject smoker’s to long-term emotional and mental disorders, thus leading to serious physical ailments. In reality, our government is making them sick.
A particularily foreboding feature of the mind/body dichotomy is the government’s suffocating negative influence while aggressively restricting young people from making their own decisions. This aggression will jeopardize each young person’s struggle to form a sense of self-confidence. This fragile process is usually a traumatic experience, especially when that negative influence is hidden under the misconception of government benevolence.
The Liberal’s Smoke-Free Act is a disgrace. Smoking is not a direct cause of serious illness. Besides, the government lacks the knowledge of the real No. 1 preventable killer in Ontario today, but more on that later.
Ken Hill
Shakespeare Avenue
Niagara-on-the-Lake
The Standard, March 30, 2007
Torontoist vs. Torontoist in… Apartment Smoking Ban!
April 3, 2007
Every week (or so), two Torontoist staffers square off to debate an issue that’s important to our city. We invite our readers to join the debate in the comments section following the post.
Last week, Ontario Health Minister George Smitherman acknowledged that the idea of banning smoking in apartment buildings probably merits some kind of public discussion. While the election-conscious Smitherman didnt venture any real opinion on the subject, much less suggest specifics on the timing, nature, or possible outcome of such a debate, the comment nevertheless fired up predictable controversy between pro and anti smoking groups. Read on to see what Torontoist makes of both sides of the story.
FOR
PATRICK METZGER
Has the time come to ban smoking in Ontarios residential rental buildings? A recent survey from the Ontario Tobacco-Free Network found that 64% of apartment residents supported the idea, suggesting that public opinion among those most affected has shifted in that direction.
Needless to say, the question of a legislated ban is contentious. The anti-smoking brigades, who have been on a roll in recent years with the elimination of cigarettes in most public spaces, see this move as the next logical step in anti-tobacco campaigns. Smokers rights groups scream nanny state and invoke the sacred right of individuals to behave as they wish in their own homes.
Of course, any apartment dweller whos lived in proximity to a heavy smoker knows that cigarette smoke is undisciplined stuff, and not disposed to confine itself to a single unit. The case isnt analogous to that common flashpoint of multi-cultural neighbourliness, cooking odours, because while culture and taste produce differing opinions on the relative noxiousness of a pervasive scent of curry or bratwurst, food smells are not an actual public health hazard. Second hand tobacco smoke, on the other hand, is a very real and well documented danger, especially to children, the elderly, and those with lung ailments. Surely your right to smoke in your home is trumped by my right to stay cancer-free in mine.
The compromise suggestion has been that the market will take care of the question, and that landlords should be able to determine whether their buildings will be smoke-free. However, its not at all clear that existing provincial laws permit such a restriction, and its unlikely that landlords have the authority to evict a tenant for defying any such ban.
Moreover, should it really be up to landlords to decide whether or not to put tenants at risk? Should the market also determine whether to leave asbestos insulation in place, or to install smoke detectors in buildings, or how to handle other safety measures (First month FREE on floors with no fire exit!)?
A recent article from Seattle suggests that in that city, many upscale buildings are already smoke-free. Typically, the least healthy environments are left to those who cant afford to move elsewhere.
Technological solutions are impractical and unlikely to be implemented, for a couple of reasons. Firstly, an entirely airtight apartment wouldnt be easy or cheap, particularly if the architect wants to avoid tenant suffocation (claims that modern buildings insulate smells from one unit to the next are a triumph of marketing, not building design). Secondly, even if suitable technologies did exist, its nonsense to suppose that thousands of existing residences could or would be retrofitted effectively.
30 years ago, smokers could light up in elevators, shopping malls, offices and even classrooms. As the risks of second hand smoke have become more apparent, smoking has gradually been eliminated from most closed spaces without apparent ill-effect on civil liberties in general. Its time that apartment residents had the same rights to breathe fresh air within their homes as they do outside of them.
KEN HUNT
Lets all agree that second-hand smoke poses a health risk. People who work in bars, or bingo halls, or nicotine-filled newsrooms need to be protected from their chain-smoking customers and colleagues. This is based on well-established science and makes for sound public policy.
However, unless your neighbour is running some kind of Kramer-esque smoking lounge, the idea that smokers in the next unit of your apartment building pose any kind of real health risk to you or your family is frankly absurd. Modern building codes stipulate that individual units need to have separate ventilation and hallways are supposed to be positively pressurized. This helps keep smoke and odours confined to individual apartments. No more are we to be bothered by the offensive smells of burnt toast or hand-wrapped Cohibas. So, a smoking ban in modern buildings is obviously unnecessary.
Even in older buildings, once cigarette smoke is diffused through all the intervening air, filtered by walls and carpets, etc., it is hard to believe that that smoke should be of more concern than the exhaust of cars driving by on the street, or coal-fired power-plants pumping pollution into the atmosphere in general. Until some kind of comprehensive study shows that apartment-to-apartment passive smoking is a real concern, this issue has to considered nothing more than a case of non-smokers panic. It certainly shouldnt trump property rights and the reasonable fair use and enjoyment of ones own home.
This isnt really about health though; this is about the fact some people really hate the smell of cigarettes and the occasional whiff of tobacco drives them batty. Well, sometimes our neighbours annoy us. Boo-hoo. If it were possible to pass laws against loud sex, Jethro Tull, boiled cabbage, and getting bumped into on the subway, there are people who would want to do that too. They just cant think up marginal-to-imaginary health concerns to make their case for those things. This is a city: a loud, busy, smelly, wonderful city. From time-to-time our fellow citizens are going to get under our skin for one reason or another. If you dont like it, your Unabomber-style shack awaits you somewhere in the deep woods.
Its funny that this issue has arisen the same week as a mentally ill man was found to have an apartment full of pigeons and cannibal mice. Yes, cannibal mice. Neighbours complained about the smell coming from this apartment for years before anything was done. Now, these are people who had a real issue, and still the state was reluctant to interfere in what they saw as a prosaic dispute between neighbours. If this doesnt point out just how silly complaints about the occasional whiff of menthol and tobacco are, Im not sure what would.
Non-smokers rights groups have made huge strides in the last few years. The protection that they have brought to all of us who like to eat in restaurants or fly on airplanes has to be admired, but on this issue theyve finally gone power-mad. As long as smoking tobacco remains a legal activity, we should at least be allowed to do it in our own homes.
By Ian Elliot The Whig-Standard
Former smoker challenges ban on lighting up in some Winnipeg apartments -MB
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