Another Ban Failed: WI State Page 2
Government intrusion bigger hazard than secondhand smoke
July 8, 2010
Local smoking bans have nothing to do with protecting people from the supposed threat of “secondhand” smoke.
Indeed, the bans are symptoms of a far more grievous cancer: the cancer of unlimited government power.
The issue is not whether secondhand smoke is a real danger or a phantom menace, as a study published recently in the British Medical Journal indicates. The issue is: If it were harmful, what would be the proper reaction? Should anti-tobacco activists educate people about the potential danger, or force people to make the “right” decision?
Supporters of local tobacco bans have made their choice. Rather than trying to protect people from an unwanted intrusion on their health, the bans are the unwanted intrusion.
Loudly billed as measures that only affect “public places,” they have actually targeted private places — places whose owners are free to set anti-smoking rules or whose customers are free to go elsewhere. Some local bans even harass smokers in places where their effect on others is negligible, such as outdoor public parks.
The decision to smoke, or to avoid “secondhand” smoke, is a question to be answered by each individual based on his own values and his own assessment of the risks.
All decisions involve risks; some have demonstrably harmful consequences. But the individual must be free to make these decisions. He must be free because his life belongs to him.
Yet when it comes to smoking, this freedom is under attack. Smokers are a numerical minority, practising a habit considered annoying and unpleasant to the majority. So the majority has simply commandeered the power of government and used it to dictate their behavior.
The anti-tobacco crusaders point in exaggerated alarm at wisps of smoke while they unleash the unlimited intrusion of government into our lives.
Thomas Laprade
Thunder Bay, Ontario
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Bartenders and tavern owners adjust to smoking ban
July 6, 2010
BARRY ADAMS
If your bartender is a little more surly than usual, please try to understand.
The statewide smoking ban is intended, in part, to make workplaces safer for employees, including bartenders, many of whom like to smoke.
Debbie Kampmeier, at Crapp’s McFarland Tavern, typically smokes about a pack a day, but in the first three hours of her shift Monday she had not even gone through one cigarette.
It was only half gone, resting in an ashtray on the bar’s back deck where bottles of Miller Lite and other alcoholic drinks are banned but where smoking is allowed.
“I’m just trying to keep myself busy,” Kampmeier said, shortly after a noon rush for the featured prime rib sandwiches. “We all knew it was coming. Nobody’s real happy about it, but I don’t think it will impact our business.”
Wisconsin’s workplace smoking ban took effect Monday and prohibits, with a few exceptions, smoking in bars, restaurants and other workplaces. Violators can be fined $100 to $250. Businesses violating the law will be given a warning and then be subject to a maximum daily fine of $100, regardless of the number of violations.
“We realize the debate over going smoke-free was long and at times difficult,” said Allison Miller, a spokeswoman with the American Cancer Society in Wisconsin. “We hope businesses view the transition to smoke-free as an opportunity to appeal to a larger customer base.”
Some communities have had smoking bans for more than a decade. Madison enacted its ban in 2005.
Monday marked the first day that every business in the state was on a level, no-smoking playing field.
“Since everyone is in it, I think they’ll be OK,” Cassandra Grueneberg said of her daughter and son-in-law, Coco and Michael Crapp, who have owned the McFarland bar for more than 13 years.
The couple doubled the size of the back deck and added two plastic cigarette receptacles on the deck and one at the front door. They also plan to thoroughly clean the walls of the business, located in a historic building across the street from the village’s library, Grueneberg said.
At Clayt’s Corner Bar in Albany, about 30 miles south of Madison in eastern Green County, bartender Greg Statdfield opened the bar at 8:30 a.m. and by 3 p.m. would have typically finished off a dozen cigarettes. On Monday, he had smoked just four.
“It’s getting to be kind of a long day about now,” Statdfield said. Customers are “fully aware of (the law) and there is discussion of it, but what are you going to do?”
At the Outpost Bar & Grill in Cottage Grove, the smell of smoke remained, but the ashtrays had been removed. A patio with four picnic tables on the side of the business is the only option for those who want to smoke and drink.
Carol Altenberger, a cook at the business, said she thinks smoking customers may not stay as long, but the absence of smoke could increase the sale of burgers and fries.
“I may have to work harder,” Altenberger said. “But that would be OK if we picked up more food business.”
Across the street at the 1855 Saloon & Grill, which has been smoke-free since opening in 2007, manager Owen King didn’t expect his business, to suffer even though there will be more dining options for those who don’t like cigarette smoke.
“The more traffic both places get, the better for both of us,” King said.
Local businesses worry about smoking ban???????
Earlier this month, Wisconsin became the 26th state to enact a statewide smoking ban, which will take effect on July 5, 2010. Without this legislation, Governor Doyle stated Wisconsin was in danger of becoming known as “the ashtray of the Midwest.”
But while the Governor shuttled among ceremonies in Madison, Milwaukee and Green Bay to celebrate the ban he was signing into law, and while he took calls from cancer survivors such as bicyclist Lance Armstrong to congratulate him, the mood at Brodhead’s Cardinal Lanes was decidedly grim.
“It’s going to kill business. It’s just going to kill it,” said owner Jack Binko as he prepared for the Friday night fish fry. “The less you take in, the less you can give out. People are going to have to start laying off employees.”
If you ask Robin Goldberg, owner of Dream Lanes in Madison where a smoking ban has been in effect since 2004, those concerns are justified. “It was like going off a cliff,” testified Mr. Goldberg at a hearing on the bill earlier this month. “Our business went down 25 percent.” Six of his employees lost their jobs. After four years and $80,000 spent on construction of an outdoor smoking patio, business is still not back to what it was. “I can only imagine the devastating effects of a smoking ban on a bowling center given today’s economy.” Roger Westmont who owns a jukebox and amusement games business testified that his business dropped 35 percent when the smoking ban went into effect in Madison and has not come back. “I’d like to know when it’s going to come back to normal,” he said, adding that the biggest impact of the no smoking ban is not on restaurants but neighborhood taverns. He said some taverns in Minnesota have lost between 25 to 50 percent of their value since the smoking ban was enacted there.
Supporters of the ban feel those kinds of losses are minor when compared to the benefits of lives saved, illnesses prevented and reductions of smoking-related medical costs. Karen Timberlake, Secretary of the Department of Health Services put that figure at about five hundred million dollars. At present less than 20 percent of Wisconsin residents are smokers, and she believes the ban will help reduce that number even further.
Doctors, nurses, asthma sufferers, people who had lost family members to lung cancer, parents of children with heart conditions and anti-tobacco lobbyists all came to Madison to plead for quick passage of the bill, stressing that it is an issue of pubic health, intended to protect employees and non-smokers from the known dangers of second-hand smoke such as increased risk of heart disease, lung cancer and respiratory disease. One man testified on behalf of his 8 year old daughter with a heart condition who couldn’t attend school bowling parties because of what he called “heart poisons” in the air.
Owners of smoke shops, cigar bars, supper clubs, and taverns testified that this was an economic issue and also one of individual and property rights. One cigar shop owner began his testimony by saying, “I’m here to fight for my business.”
Last Friday afternoon, the friendly crowd at Cardinal Lanes clearly sided with the last group, resenting what they saw as yet another instance of Madison government telling rural communities what they can and cannot do. “Next thing you know,” said a patron named Scott, “They’ll be telling us what to eat and what to drink.”
“I think we should just ban Democrats,” said another, “Or tax them 200 percent for being Democrats.”
When told the state smoking ban won’t apply to casinos, one patron said, “How about if we just name this place ‘Brodhead Casino’, will that work?”
When asked if the game of bowling itself would be affected by the ban, a woman named Chris who bowled in a state tournament where smoking wasn’t allowed, said she wouldn’t want to do that every week. “It does make a difference, “ she said. When bowlers have to step outside to have a cigarette, “It holds up the game.” A patron named Brian added, “If we want to go out, we have to take off our shoes. You can’t wear your bowling shoes outside.”
“Who I really feel sorry for are the Mom and Pop bars,” said Scott, as he lit up a cigarette. “That’s their life savings right there. That’s their retirement.”
But at Villa Pizza, a sit-down restaurant which went smoke-free in February, owner Lena Mazzarese said it has had no effect on business. “People are very happy, They said, ‘That’s the best thing you guys did. Put in No Smoking.’”
Yanci, a waitress at Knutes Bar and Grill, in Orfordville, didn’t believe it would hurt the dinner service because she said Knutes already offers a separate smoke-free dining area. But she said the bar business would suffer once the ban took effect, and she too, bristled at the intervention of government on what she believes should be a business owner’s choice. “I don’t think they should be telling us what to do. I don’t agree with it at all.”
At 6:30 p.m. Knutes was crowded with customers, including families, who came for fish and chose to dine upstairs where smoking was allowed, though only two people out of about 50 present were having cigarettes. One of them was Sonja Haegele, who said she probably would stay home more if she couldn’t smoke in the bar. “Yeah, I’ll probably just stay home at my campfire and drink and smoke there.” Another customer leaned into the conversation and said, “Yeah, but I’ll be staying here longer.”
Sonja said, “I already feel like a minority.” One Brodhead tavern owner who requested anonymity was worried about loss of income and also resented what felt like strong arm tactics from the state government. “I don’t smoke, and I never have,” the owner said, “But my customers do. And after working hard all day I feel they have the right to come in and have a drink and enjoy a cigarette if they want it.” Adding, “They should let us put a sign out that says, ‘This is a smoking establishment’. It should be our choice.” Though the ban allows businesses to have outdoor smoking patios, tavern owners didn’t feel that would help things. “I only own this place from the front door to the back,” said one, “Where am I supposed to put people? On the roof?”
With exception of the Ms. Mazzarese of Villa Pizza, who went smoke free by choice, local tavern owners and workers we spoke to on Friday were angry and frustrated with lawmakers who they feel are ignoring the impact the ban will have on their businesses. “We work hard,” Said one, “They keep taxing us and making money from us, but they also want to kill us.”
“The ramifications are far-reaching,” said Binko of the smoking ban, “I complained, I called my legislators, they don’t want to hear it.”? He believes local people should be able to decide this issue for themselves. “If you don’t like smoke, don’t come in here,” he said. “They have a choice,” he added, but when it comes to the smoking ban, “I don’t have a choice.”?? Before he headed back to the kitchen to get the Cardinal Lanes fish fry going, he said,? “Governor Doyle is a moron. And you can quote me on that.” There were nods of agreement from patrons all around the bar.
When asked what he thought the long term effect of the smoking ban would be, a bartender at Flinagans Bar and Grill summed up the feelings of most local tavern owners we spoke to. He said, “It goes into effect July 5 of next year, right?” he said, “And so we’ll be broke by the sixth.”
Two more states about to fall victim to smoking bans
By William Campbell Douglass II, M.D.
http://douglassreport.com/
Wisconsin Smoking Ban Bill Awaits Governor’s Signature
Senate, Assembly members passed the smoking ban bill late-Wednesday.
May 14, 2009
Rein in pharma money
Drug company funding of continuing medical education raises conflicts for the University of Wisconsin. The school should set strict guidelines.
Apr. 2009
It’s no surprise that continuing medical education courses bought and paid for by drug companies come with a heavy dose of marketing.
The surprise is that schools like the University of Wisconsin-Madison haven’t done more until now to insulate themselves from the pernicious effects of drug company money.
UW officials are evaluating the school’s policies on continuing medical education. They must set strict guidelines that protect the school’s reputation.
In another of their periodic reports on the problem, Journal Sentinel reporters Susanne Rust and John Fauber found that doctor education courses offered by UW and funded by drug companies often provided biased information that tended to favor prescription drugs over non-drug therapies and failed to mention important side effects.
Pfizer, for example, is shelling out $12.3 million for an online UW course to instruct doctors on how to get patients to quit smoking. The course materials heavily promote Pfizer’s drug, Chantix, which is the most effective drug on the market but also has been linked to serious side effects. None of them are mentioned in the course.
Fauber and Rust found that four of nine online UW doctor education courses were funded by industry – all free and all recommending drugs as the first line of treatment. The other five courses, costing $20 each, stressed nutrition and quality of life issues.
Such cozy relationships tend to drive up medical costs by encouraging doctors to prescribe expensive brand-name drugs and by promoting the use of drugs not approved for ailments. The Wisconsin Medical Society, among other groups, has called for restrictions on drug company money.
UW might consider emulating Stanford University, which has banned companies from designating how their contributions can be used. Companies can make general-purpose contributions, but Stanford determines for itself how that money is used. Another option: banning drug company funding of continuing medical education altogether.
Universities should not lend their good names to the marketing machines of the nation’s pharmaceutical industry. Strict guidelines are needed.
The Legislature is back on track to snuff out smoking in all bars and restaurants across Wisconsin.
staff — will finally breathe easier.
IPCPR Offers Op-Ed to Wisconsin Newspapers on Proposed Statewide Smoking Ban
November 24, 2008
Dear Editor:
There are few topics as controversial as politics and religion. Secondhand smoke is one such topic. Although people get passionate about all three subjects, the main difference between them is that the former are based on promises and beliefs while the latter is based on science.
Unfortunately, the science of secondhand smoke is often less reliable than the promises of politics and the beliefs of religion.
As the Wisconsin legislature considers a statewide ban on smoking in restaurants and bars, they should look behind and beyond the numbers to determine their validity and viability which is what my organization – the International Premium Cigar & Pipe Retailers Association – tries to help legislators and consumers do.
Anti-smoking forces throw statistics around like ping pong balls. People believe most of them because, after all, who is going to question a source like the American Cancer Society? They take whatever numbers are printed in the ACS news releases and accept them as if they came from the Bible. Before we deny more people of their rights, we should analyze the data and statements to be sure they reflect reality.
The Truth Revealed
For example, the Surgeon General’s 2006 Report actually says throughout that the evidence regarding health effects of secondhand smoke is inconclusive. Unfortunately, most folks only quote from the executive summary which skews the results to support the anti-smoking force’s false agenda.
Another example of misrepresented data would be the report on secondhand smoke produced by the Environmental Protection Agency. The science quoted in the EPA report was so badly conceived and poorly executed that a federal court condemned it as being deliberately biased and declared it null and void.
On the other hand, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration gets it. They established what they consider to be safe parameters for secondhand smoke. Those parameters are well outside of the range that anyone would find in an average restaurant or bar according to scientific testing done by the Oak Ridge National Laboratory. Other than that, OSHA does not regard secondhand smoke to be a workplace issue.
Finally, history has shown that legislatively imposed smoking bans can lead to lower tax revenues from businesses like restaurants and bars plus widespread layoffs and even forced closings. In Wisconsin, businesses potentially affected by a smoking ban could include the 30 of IPCPR’s 2,000 members who are owners of neighborhood smoke shops that pay millions of dollars annually in payroll, sales and excise taxes.
The bottom line is that government does not have the right to impose smoking bans on private businesses. Our nation’s founders clearly opposed government intervention into matters of private property – like businesses, including bars and restaurants – where owners have the right to decide whether or not to allow smoking on their premises. Customers and employees then have the right to patronize or work at those businesses.
Legislators should spend their time on serious matters instead of on matters of dubious representation.
Chris McCalla, Legislative Director
International Premium Cigar & Pipe Retailers Association
4 Bradley Park Court
Columbus, GA 31904
706/494-1143
Contact:
Tony Tortorici
678/493-0313
tony@tortoricipr.com
November 5, 2008
KENOSHA, Wis. (AP) – Voters in Kenosha are urging the City Council to reject a proposed ban on smoking in workplaces.
Fifty-two percent of voters in an advisory referendum Tuesday voted against the smoking ban.
A council committee deferred action on the proposal last August, sending the issue to a referendum. That set up a divisive battle between those with health concerns about secondhand smoke and how the ban would impact business at local bars.
Organizers of Breathe Free Kenosha promised to continue the fight to ban workplace smoking.
Jim Matzur, the chairman of Be Fair Kenosha, which rallied against the ban, said the hard work paid off and the “spin is over.”
Information from: Kenosha News, http://www.kenoshanews.com
Past and Present Collide?
24 October 2008
By Mary Magdalen Moser
International Premium Cigar and Pipe Dealers Association: Spreads truth to head off Wisconsin smoking ban
http://wispolitics.com/index.iml?Article=139214
Ryan vs. the Anti-Smoking Movement
By Ryan Evans
Tonight I initiated stage one of my assault on the anti-smoking movement here in Wisconsin. I have decided that politics, policy, rights and common decency don’t work, so it is time to fight fallacy with fact and fall back on that wonderfully objective argument called hard science. Below is a copy of the letter that I sent off to involved WI government and advocacy groups in the hopes of forcing a response from them that I can use in future arguments.
I will be posting their responses as I receive them.
Open Letter to Smoke Free Wisconsin Requesting Documentation for Smoke Free Wisconsin Health Claims
Dear Smoke Free Wisconsin et al.;
cc: American Lung Association of Wisconsin, American Cancer Society (Wisconsin), Wisconsin State Senator Harsdorf, Wisconsin Assembly Representative Hraychuck, Governor Jim Doyle, Wisconsin Department of Health and Family Services
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Legislators push back on Doyle’s call for smoking ban
January 24, 2008
Hudson / Governor attempts to light a fire under state lawmakers Doyle visits front line in smoking ban battle
BY KEVIN HARTER
Before arriving in Hudson, Doyle spent the morning with Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty discussing, among other issues, Minnesota’s smoking ban.
Lawmakers should leave smoking decisions to state business owners
December 6, 2007
BY CRYSTAL LINDELL
of The Northwestern
Even though Gov. Jim Doyle wanted to get a statewide smoking ban approved during the upcoming special legislative session, two local lawmakers from opposite parties said they didn’t think the governor would get his way if the issue came up for a vote.
•? Click for OshKonversation: Does statewide smoking ban have a shot at passage?
Doyle’s proposal would ban smoking in any workplace, including restaurants and bars, stretching restrictions beyond the ban Oshkosh voters enacted three years ago. The city’s ban allows smoking in taverns where food sales account for 30 percent or less of total gross sales.
However, the Associated Press reported Wednesday that the state Senate will not even debate the ban, much less vote on it, during the upcoming special session.
“Nothing that I’ve heard has told me the support is there,” said state Rep. Gordon Hintz, D-Oshkosh. “I think you’re going to see increased attention on this, I’m just not sure that the political support is there right now to pass it.”
State Sen. Carol Roessler, R-Oshkosh, agreed and said such a measure currently is in limbo.
“I think that there has been a slowing of the possibility at this time,” Roessler said.
Despite the lack of political support, both legislators said a comprehensive smoking ban is needed in Wisconsin. Hintz said that at the basic level it’s matter of public health, but such a statewide ban also could be good for companies.
“From a business competition standpoint I think it’s one of those things where we should treat businesses fairly and have uniformity,” he said.
Roessler said she has been working hard to get such legislation passed.
“People ought not to have to be subjected, by nature of their workplace or by being proximity of someone who is smoking, in a way that their health can be dramatically jeopardized,” she said.
Sue Bessert, owner of The Cheatin Heart, 2839 Harrison Street, disagrees with those who want such a comprehensive ban, including her local lawmakers.
“I just wish that they’d back off it,” Bessert said “I’m sure they’ve got something better they can do.”
She said about 90 percent of her customers are smokers and if they’re not allowed to smoke she might lose business.
“It’s pretty evident it’s getting shoved down our throat,” she said. “The people that are really lobbying for it and really pushing for it are people that don’t go to these types of places to begin with and that’s just the saddest part.”
However, she said she wouldn’t be opposed to a statewide smoking ban as long taverns like hers could be exempt.
Hintz said he probably would not be in support of a ban that includes exceptions for bars.
“I’m assuming there would be support for a tavern exception, but my guess is that’s the indoor place where a lot of the smoking takes place,” Hintz said.
Roessler does not support a tavern exception, either.
Margy Davey, a former member of Breath Free Oshkosh, the group that worked to pass the local ordinance, said she’s hopeful a statewide ban will get passed specifically so that taverns will be included in the smoking ban in Oshkosh.
“I think it’s the only way to go,” Davey said.
Davey also said employees at bars shouldn’t have to be around smoke to make a living.
“Everybody says ‘Well if it bothers them, then they should just go get another job,'” she said. “We’ll that’s not always possible for people. Maybe that already is their second or third job.”
About half the states in the country already have statewide smoking bans, including Illinois and Minnesota.
Crystal Lindell: (920) 426-6668 or clindell@thenorthwestern.com
State smoking ban all but dead, cable proposal sees new life in Assembly
October 30, 2007
By Scott Bauer, Associated Press
MADISON— A statewide smoking ban appears to be on life support.
A tax on oil companies is all but dead.
But a cable deregulation proposal and a new hospital tax appear to have some life.
These and other issues, most of which languished during an eight-month budget stalemate, are getting renewed attention in the Legislature.
But just as split party control led to the budget stand off, it’s likely to slow progress on these issues. Republicans who control the Assembly and Democrats who run the Senate are putting together different agendas that are likely to result in few laws of substance being passed in the next five months.
Assembly Republicans intend to spend the rest of this year clearing out bills that languished during the budget impasse, said John Murray, a spokesman for Speaker Mike Huebsch, R-West Salem.
Democrats in the Senate hope to pass a revised version of the universal health care plan that got dropped during budget negotiations, said Senate Majority Leader Russ Decker, R-Weston. But Assembly Republicans, who opposed the universal health care plan, will probably wait to address health care until they release their own plan closer to January, Murray said.
The original universal health care plan, known as Healthy Wisconsin, was widely criticized for its $15 million price tag. It never won the support of Democratic Gov. Jim Doyle and Democrats were forced to drop it during budget talks with Republicans.
Decker said some of the criticism about the cost will be addressed in a new proposal the Senate will take up this year.
Meanwhile, Doyle has his own agenda which includes upcoming announcements about renewable energy initiatives, economic development and the Wisconsin Covenant plan to make higher education available to middle school students who meet certain requirements, spokesman Matt Canter said.
Doyle has abandoned a proposed tax on oil companies, after opponents attacked it as unconstitutional and difficult to enforce. Critics also had argued that oil companies would simply pass the tax along to consumers at the pump.
Jason Stein, 608-252-6129
October 30, 2007
A proposed statewide smoking ban that includes bars has been crushed out in the state Senate.
An aide to a key state senator said Monday the lawmaker is unwilling to accept any ban that includes taverns.
Sen. Roger Breske, D-Eland, “needs to keep protecting the businesses in his district that would potentially be closed with a ban on smoking completely, ” said chief of staff Sue Meinholz.
The smoking ban is only one of several bills facing changing fortunes in the Legislature following a shake-up in Senate leadership.
The bill on the ban, introduced in April by Senate President Fred Risser, D-Madison, would end smoking in essentially all workplaces — including bars and restaurants.
The new Senate Majority Leader, Russ Decker, D-Schofield, said he wants Breske and Risser to come to a compromise on the proposal before the Senate takes any action on it. But both sides said Monday they disagreed about whether to include bars in the proposal and would not compromise.
Former Senate Majority Leader Judy Robson, D-Beloit, who was ousted by fellow Democrats last week, is a former nurse who supports the full ban.
Senate Minority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, R-Juneau, an opponent of a full ban, also said he thought the smoking ban on bars is now dead.
“I ‘ve seen that movie and it ‘s not going to happen, ” Fitzgerald said of a compromise between Risser and Breske. “I think that bill is stalled as a result. “
Risser said Monday he won ‘t accept dropping taverns from the bill though he left open the possibility of some other compromise that could relight the proposal.
“The smoking ban is not dead. I am still cautiously optimistic that the ban will come before the Senate for discussion, ” Risser said. “I realize there are some procedural hurdles. We ‘re working on those. “
The news in the Senate comes as two neighboring states, Minnesota and Illinois, are moving toward enacting full bans on smoking in bars and restaurants by January.
Maureen Busalacchi, executive director of Smoke Free Wisconsin, said she opposes any compromise on the bill, saying the current proposal would mean better health for bar employees affected by second-hand smoke.
“Workers are workers and whether they work in a bar or restaurant shouldn ‘t matter. They should be protected from having to breathe in carcinogens, ” Busalacchi said.
The Tavern League of Wisconsin has opposed Risser ‘s proposal, saying it would harm the small businesses among its group and their employees. The league ‘s lobbyist could not be reached for comment Monday.
Breske owned a tavern for more than 20 years in his hometown of Eland and Meinholz said his opposition to a smoking ban in bars is “no secret. ” Breske favors a more limited ban on smoking in restaurants, she said.
So far, Breske and Risser have not met to discuss the bill.
Breske “would be eager to do it at any time, ” Meinholz said of a meeting.
Gov. Jim Doyle still supports the ban on smoking in taverns and restaurants, spokesman Matt Canter said Monday. Assembly Speaker Mike Huebsch, R-West Salem, hasn ‘t taken a position on the bill.
A study by the University of Wisconsin Comprehensive Cancer Center found that bar employees in Madison and Appleton had fewer symptoms such as shortness of breath following the smoking bans enacted in those cities.
10/19/2007
Stan Wekkin
I found the article regarding the smoking ban in bars and restaurants very interesting. The owners all talk about the rights of the people to smoke or not to smoke and the choice of the business owner to have smoking or not smoking. Why do they need the state to make the decision?
Paul Rhode is the only one that gets it and understands what it is to be an American and the freedoms we embrace.
If an establishment chooses to have smoking it is the right of the individual to “vote” with their wallets and not support the business. Why shouldn’t smokers have the right to go to a place where they can go enjoy a drink or a meal and a smoke after without having to go outside? These businesses are privately owned and should have the freedom to make the business decision to have smoking or not.
Contrary to what seems to be becoming a popular belief, the state and federal government are not smarter than their constituents and do not need to be telling me how to spend my money or what is good for me.
Again, thanks, Paul, for being a great American and supporting freedom.
